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      06-05-2026, 04:13 PM   #20
FrankL
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Toyota NA engines good. Toyota turbo engines TBD (but not looking so great).
I generally like Toyota. They came out like BMW and said that they were going to keep doing ICE, PHEV, some EV and also doing hydrogen/etc. This was a great move. Honda had a similar attitude.

BMW has decades of experience starting with Bob Lutz putting a turbo in the BMW 2002. This was before the Porsche 930. Supposedly, Oldsmobile had a turbo engine in the 1960s(?) but never really made it. The Group 5 racing 320i with Hans Stuck driving putting out close to 650 bhp.

BMW has even more experience taking a little 2002 4 cylinder M10, slapping a big turbo on it, using rocket fuel (BMW/BASF Wintershal fuel) and putting out 1400 bhp in qualifying mode thanks to Paul Rosche wizardry. The engine was the M12/13. I think it race mode it was 700 bhp.
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