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Originally Posted by 99540
Agreed - can't go wrong with a p car they are definitely amazing and superior depending on wants ... do we even maximize these cars without hitting a track i'd say no its just knowing its there i guess lol
as for leasing - i lease because usually within 6 months i'm bored of the car, that being said this m5 i may possibly buy out can't get enough of it 10 months later but a hybrid m5 sounds interesting as well lol it never ends
... only thing i differ on is power - the m5 has a ton more and a freight train up top vs m550. m5 advertised at 625 is smoking mirrors, i had a dinan flash in my m550 and it got brutalized by stock m5's. the x4 had about a car on it ..
we are definitely in a good position to have these conversations
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Originally Posted by Joe-BMW33
Yeah, we are definitely on the same page. In terms of my comments on the BMW trend to "M" everything and anything and in doing so diminishing the distinction of what a real M-only brings to the table, I totally get that, but I am definitely not as passionate about it as others are. BMW is a marketing machine set out to make as much money as possible. My E39 is a 2003 M-Tech. That meant something in 2003. I am not sure if it annoyed the E39 M5 crowd then. It had the same bumpers, same suspension, staggered but different wheels, same 6-speed tranny, but an engine with an S in front of the numbers. Pretty much the same as today with the M550 and the M5, the difference being, they put an M in front of the numbers on the trunk, something they would not have done in 2003 on the E39. So be it, I am certainly not one of the people that says an M550 is basically an M5 for $25k less, but it is a lot of car and a beast. The closeness in power between the two is the most surprising thing BMW did to me. I don't have an M5 so I am not sure how I would feel about the M550 encroaching on my exclusivity. I always wanted an M car but could not afford it. Now I can and I'm going Porsche over it and I think the M550 is what helped me make that decision. It's got enough overall juice and tech for a big ass sedan and the F90 doesn't handle much better. If you have ever driven a car with zero to minimal body roll, you know what I mean. That's pretty much any P car.
I am sure the X4MC is sweet, Christ there are so many BMW's I would like to own. I am wondering how the M8 CS handles, probably worse, but it looks lower and more balanced than the M5? Yeah, I never buy new. I have not problem saving a ton of money for a two year old car with 10-15k miles on it. I used to lease new once in a while, but my rule of thumb is if you lease because you can't afford to buy new, then you should not be leasing either.
Nice problems to have, huh?? Which $100k car is better than the other, lol.
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The irony for me is I really don't even drive that hard or need the power, I just want it! Yeah my test drives of the MC don't give me a clue. I'm sure you are right. Like I mentioned, the handling and driving experience is more important to me. I am not out racing people from green, but I love to know it is there. Used to do that more, I have no problem letting someone blow by me from stop, but I like to shake my head at them knowing I could compete it I wanted to. Just getting old I guess.