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      01-17-2017, 09:44 AM   #125
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1. Maybe in California, but in Florida I've seen a total of two. One for employees only at a business, the other at a hotel for hotel guests. I see tons of e85 stations though.
2. Its park, pay, pump. Takes me 2 min. If charging is 10 min, charge stations would have to be 5 times larger to be as effective and just as numerous as gas stations. Huge amount of real estate someone needs to pay for.
3.electric motors start heating up after 3 or so good pulls and loose far more effectiveness that ice engines. I don't track but now your comment on tracking makes most people need a second car to track. Most people can't afford a crappy tesla to begin with, let alone a dedicated track car also, so tracking would become something only for the wealthy elite.
4 i got 400 mile range on my 335i all day before mods for over 200k. Less stops, less station stops. Up the number of spaces again on the fueling sites.
5 car looks are owner maintenance. Battery life however is not. Batteries need changing well before 200k. That's costly, poluting, and expensive. Add that cost in and they become even more expensive.
6. The ev batteries are a real environmental hazzard. Heavy metals, mining, etc. Oil production is a way smaller impact. ANWR needs a footprint in the artic the size of a football field to produce the oil for 80 yrs of US consumption. Smaller than a single nickel plant. The electricity needed to generate the power for evs comes from where? Fossil fuels. Its an inefficient way to make power. And if you want to go to the false socialist argument that there's climate change, well I'll leave that to the new administration to correct the record.
7. I drive 300 miles each way daily for work. There's no overnight charging. And even if i do an overnight stay at a hotel, i need to as the front desk for a plug, extension cord, worry about a kid unplugging me? Its hard enough even finding a parking spot. The laughs from the desk would be thunderous.
8. Almost forgot reliability. Consumer reports just named the tesla one of the most unreliable card on the market. Teala does have reliable tow vehicles for roadside assistance. F350 diesels. Which brings me to towing. I don't see any EVs towing. Guess we won't be allowed to anymore?
Again, lots of misinformation from you, as usual
1. FL has 14, not 2 superchargers and that's more than enough to do any type of driving. https://www.tesla.com/findus/list/su.../United+States
2. You need zero real estate, charging stalls are part of the parking
3. On my 3rd Tesla and never overheated. I did waaay more than 3 pulls at the time. It was fun watching Power output on my app. And no, no degradation after each pull like in ICE when it gets heat soaked.
You've heard it happened somewhere probably and now you think it's the case for all EV cars. EV motor is not affected by temperature, elevation and humidity as much as ICE. I thought you knew that
4. I'm surprised you get 400 per tank, i had less success with 335i. Though, its a small car with hwy-only miles, so that helps
5. Haha.. battery will perform at over 90% of it's capacity after 200K. it has 3000 cycles before it gets to 80% of its range, so After 750,000 miles you may think of replacing it.
http://insideevs.com/200000-miles-te...y-degradation/
6. Remember BP spill? Go around the world and see how clean oil production is. There are thousands of disaster cases you can find examples of. Keep ignoring...
Electricity comes from different sources and some of them unfortunately not so clean. But, as grid becomes cleaner, it makes thousands cars automatically less polluting. Also, it requires less energy to power EV than ICE.
I'm personally, charging with solar, so do other people.
This is becoming more popular likely
7. Please provide your route, i find it HARD to believe you even need to charge over night. Your commute is almost within the range of the battery.
Quick stop at supercharger is more than enough to meet your daily needs.
8. Reliability, yes it had it's fair amount of issues, but that happens to 1st model year to a lot of brands.
You always seem to selectively pick unfavorable info in any EV section
Almost like you're so biased that you cannot accept the fact that EVs are part of the car industry now.
Tesla:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/24/why-c...ty-rating.html
Others:
http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/c...der-1.11016600
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