[frankchn]

Originally Posted by jeff4598

Where is the love for Bluestone? Googled 550's in Bluestone and it's amazing! Like a darker version of Porsche's Graphite Blue; it is blue in sunlight, silver-blue in moderate light and a rich, deep silver grey in lower light.

It's a very nice color, but I think for most buyers of the M5, they would want to go for one of the M exclusive colors to distinguish their cars from the hoi-polloi 530i G30s roaming the streets

[frankchn]

Originally Posted by gallian93

Wow.... I just put together a $135K bmw M5... Just WOW! that is pretty healthy price point with a lot of contenders for that money!!!

That is with basically every single option selected right? The E63S is about the same price when you check every single option too.

[TheRealOrosie]

Maybe I am in the minority...but my build is 110k, with GG Tax. All I need is black 20's and the exec package...and I am good to go.

[BwoodBMW]

Originally Posted by Madvillain

what faults? the apprent poor steering feel? nope. the only thing they fixed is the off the line traction. youre telling me that 60k is worth those times that you lose grip when your tires are worn out...i dont think so. and as for straight line performance a tune on f10 would solve it.

Are you comparing a new car to used modified car for this? My spec would option to $115k. I guess for $60k less I could build a faster Subaru WRX too so is that the better option?

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by gallian93

Wow.... I just put together a $135K bmw M5... Just WOW! that is pretty healthy price point with a lot of contenders for that money!!!

like? compare apples to apples please. don't say you can get a 991.2 for that money.

also no one forced you to check EVERY SINGLE BOX. you would never so don't throw out the $135k price tag as if that's what you're coughing up tomorrow for this car.

[Mako]

tough to tell from specs, but it looks like heated steering wheel is standard but not heated front seats? have to get a $4K package for that???

if I actually bought new I would not get any options, just color and wheel choice! $103K
but in 2 years I can probably pick one up for $70K

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by sonnenschein3000

Oh okay, so although its not called Road Tax, you do have an annual tax to pay for your car. Interesting.

One thing for each of you:

1) Not all states have a yearly tax (just states that suck) lol.

2) WHY did you move from the UK to Kansas? That's unusual...

[jeff4598]

Originally Posted by frankchn

It's a very nice color, but I think for most buyers of the M5, they would want to go for one of the M exclusive colors to distinguish their cars from the hoi-polloi 530i G30s roaming the streets

You can't diss me if you can't catch me!

[lchdezm3]

this new X Drive will put the M5 in a whole other level..!

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Just played around with it myself. My build came out to $121k without Carbon Brakes. Hmm... what other cars could I have for $121k? Lol!

Yeah and what's the word on the sport exhaust? Not talking about the M Performance Exhaust. I guess American cars get it included?

Think this is a car you wait to see it in person, and I wouldn’t build this car beyond 112k. These cars come optioned pretty decent, and all the other stuff it just stuff. 4 door luxury cars are the worst on depreciating because at this price point potential owners typically want to buy new vs low mileage sports cars people will buy. You can buy a 2015 vanquish V1w 110k! Deals to be had in this market.

Oops sorry man 152k. I can see you rolling this(:
http://motorcarsofgeorgia.com/used-a...anta-ga-11289b

[Madvillain]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

Are you comparing a new car to used modified car for this? My spec would option to $115k. I guess for $60k less I could build a faster Subaru WRX too so is that the better option?

im just saying the f90 doesnt offer much for being nearly the sa1me car. its not like when they went from e60 to f10. in that case the f10 was a lot faster, had a lot more potential for tuning, looked better inside and out and used better materials. what im saying in this case is all theyve done is basically a refresh with awd. its def a nice car a more improved f10 no doubt but u can find very nice clean f10s on used market for half the price...heck if u want get a used f10 daily it and build youself some crazy track or drag car with the money you save.

[DallasLife345M]

Originally Posted by bobloblaw

Right? Why does BMW make it so impossible to get a red M car? Even on the sportier M2/3/4... Oddly enough, the X5M/X6M are the only M cars you can get in red.

I agree the color pallet is bla... I've been using this BMW Individual color visualiser to choose an individual color. Unfortunately the sample car is an M3 and not an M5.

http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/topics/di...isualiser.html

[cfm56d7b]

Originally Posted by DallasLife345M

I agree the color pallet is bla... I've been using this BMW Individual color visualiser to choose an individual color. Unfortunately the sample car is an M3 and not an M5.

http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/topics/di...isualiser.html

I agree. Both exterior and interior color selections are quite poor. Absence of red interior is puzzling.

[gallian93]

Originally Posted by rjd598

like? compare apples to apples please. don't say you can get a 991.2 for that money.

also no one forced you to check EVERY SINGLE BOX. you would never so don't throw out the $135k price tag as if that's what you're coughing up tomorrow for this car.

It was every single option... i was trying to see what a fully loaded one would run for... It turns out it is $135K...If you are aware of a different way to come to that conclusion i would be happy to hear it. Also, i am glad that you keenly aware of what i would and would not do tomorrow...i am just not sure how you came about that information

Here one example....i could buy this Used 2014 Toyota Camry SE w/ Sport Limited Edition
if i just added $24,590 to my $135K...
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...delCode1=CAMRY

Jokes aside, what i trying point out was that the M3&M5 were an affordable,2/4 door beasts...specifically if you looked for on that was CPO'ed... My first e46 M3 had an MSRP of around $46-47K putting the CPO i picked up after my first nice job at around $32K...i also remember that had toyed with the prospect of an M5 (e60) and they were CPO'ed at around $40-45K... If M cars were price the way that they are now, i am not sure i would have been able to afford it and therefore never started down the path of giving BMW all my money

With a Loaded ticket of $135K is on par with a really well put together New MB, CPO Roll Royce, Aston Rapids, Bentley in the 4 door and a very very long list in luxurious, super fast coupes... Also, I am not sure the people that bought them in the past will be able to afford them and the ones that can would maybe want something else for that money....

Also why would you not consider a 911 as an apple to apple comparison... When BMW is advertising M cars they don't talk about the number of door, the amount of luggage or people one can put in the car... They talk in HP and ft-lbs of torque, 0-60 times and ring lap times. The picture of M cars are on tracks not famer's market getting groceries, so why one compare to other daily driver track cars? It was not apples to apples a few years ago because of price differential...not true any more.....

They are both targeted as "drivers" cars (one more that the other), both super reliable, dependent daily drivers, both can be configured to be very luxurious (for two people in the 911) and far as needing the extra seats, the probability of someone putting down $120K+ on a car, having a second car it high...the back seats in that car could be used as needed.

[gallian93]

Originally Posted by frankchn

That is with basically every single option selected right? The E63S is about the same price when you check every single option too.

Can't remember if i added the $5K individual paint job

[frankchn]

Originally Posted by gallian93

With a Loaded ticket of $135K is on par with a really well put together New MB, CPO Roll Royce, Aston Rapids, Bentley in the 4 door and a very very long list in luxurious, super fast coupes... Also, I am not sure the people that bought them in the past will be able to afford them and the ones that can would maybe want something else for that money....

You can't compare CPO vehicles to new vehicles though. We all know that M and AMG cars (and Bentleys, Rolls, Astons, etc...) depreciate like rocks in the first 3 years (S65 AMG anyone?), and hopefully everyone goes in with their eyes open buying a car like this new. It is basically the same price compared to the direct competitors new (RS6 and E63S).

I did a search on autotrader and you can get examples of CPO 2015 M5s for under $60k which probably retailed for north of $100k MSRP new, so if you really want to get an affordable F90 M5, just wait 3 years .

[gallian93]

Originally Posted by frankchn

You can't compare CPO vehicles to new vehicles though. We all know that M and AMG cars (and Bentleys, Rolls, Astons, etc...) depreciate like rocks in the first 3 years (S65 AMG anyone?), and hopefully everyone goes in with their eyes open buying a car like this new. It is basically the same price compared to the direct competitors new (RS6 and E63S).

I did a search on autotrader and you can get examples of CPO 2015 M5s for under $60k which probably retailed for north of $100k MSRP new, so if you really want to get an affordable F90 M5, just wait 3 years .

Fair enough... and maybe its just me, at $60K it would be a no brainer for me to get an M car, being a bimmerphile....but at over $120K i would really be rethinking my options...
That said it is all about perspective... 10 years ago, at least for me, dropping 60-80K even on am M car was crazy talk ... but now it seems pretty reasonable...maybe 10 year from now i'll think that $135K is a great bargain

[eclipxe]

Originally Posted by gallian93

Fair enough... and maybe its just me, at $60K it would be a no brainer for me to get an M car, being a bimmerphile....but at over $120K i would really be rethinking my options...
That said it is all about perspective... 10 years ago, at least for me, dropping 60-80K even on am M car was crazy talk ... but now it seems pretty reasonable...maybe 10 year from now i'll think that $135K is a great bargain

Originally Posted by gallian93

Fair enough... and maybe its just me, at $60K it would be a no brainer for me to get an M car, being a bimmerphile....but at over $120K i would really be rethinking my options...
That said it is all about perspective... 10 years ago, at least for me, dropping 60-80K even on am M car was crazy talk ... but now it seems pretty reasonable...maybe 10 year from now i'll think that $135K is a great bargain

My bmw build is $110k. An actual order (HEA to be delivered in a few weeks). The car is pretty much loaded without adding much. You don't need to add another 20-30k to this car.

I'm coming from a $155k Tesla P90D, so $110k for the M5 is an amazing bargain.

[SlammedR8]

Originally Posted by jmh600cbr

Can someone explain why this is on the Canadian site but the 2018 m2 isn't?

I don't see the 2018 M5 on bmw.ca (Canadian site)

[SlammedR8]

Surprised no one else has mentioned this yet, no red (or Sakhir Orange) interior option?

Oddly, Benz isn't offering it on the E63 either. Maybe they think no one wants a red interior in the higher end models? I would disagree but who knows!

I hate small wheels but those 19s are a must have, the 20" wheels are disgusting IMO

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by SlammedR8

Surprised no one else has mentioned this yet, no red (or Sakhir Orange) interior option?

Oddly, Benz isn't offering it on the E63 either. Maybe they think no one wants a red interior in the higher end models? I would disagree but who knows!

I hate small wheels but those 19s are a must have, the 20" wheels are disgusting IMO

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[JMD]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Just played around with it myself. My build came out to $121k without Carbon Brakes. Hmm... what other cars could I have for $121k? Lol!

Yeah and what's the word on the sport exhaust? Not talking about the M Performance Exhaust. I guess American cars get it included?

We must have built the same M5,...as mine too came up to $121,600. I skipped the CC brakes,...the rear entertainment system, etc.

I will definitely drive one to get a feel of it.